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SEXY Boomer loves Hope
PLEASE READ THIS EVERYONE (INCLUDING THE BIG PINK P BEHIND THIS!)

Dear Pikapet and fellow users,

I am very upset with a very recent decision Pikapet has made.
Most pets know that I work very hard to put together pet weddings because it is fun. Nowhere does Pikapet say that is against the Terms of Service. Off Topic forums are allowed for anything from "Polar Bears to hiccups". Hosting weddings was nowhere near being against the rules.

I decided by popular request to make a page for the planning of weddings that I would be hosting. Not to host them there, but to organize my information easier so it wasn't so cluttered and confusing. If anyone were to disagree, I wanted them to contact me first and that was written on the page. The profile was not accepting Pikadate or Friend Requests. It's only purpose was to organize and bring enjoyment to Pikapet.
I figured that because there were other contest and party pages up to enjoy that were there for months my organization would be allowed. Boy was I wrong!

While editing that page about a half hour ago *10:30 AM CST* The edit went through, but the page itself was nowhere to be found. I looked around and a few of my friend Maile Nei's contest pages were gone also.
Checking other non-pet pages, I relaized the "Party Page", "Single Page" and "Prom/Dance Page" also had vanished. Using my little birdy brain, I remembered that I had looked at Maile Nei's contests this morning and they were fine. It said Maile Nei was last logged in on that account 11 hours ago. So Maile Nei herself or any other user did not delete them~ Pikapet Headquarters did!

Pikapet has yet to delete many fakes (Most I have included proof with), stuffed animals, other party pages and random objects. I would like to know why my page was deleted and not the others.

(A copy of the General Terms)

GENERAL TERMS

You must be 13 years and older to use this site.

You are responsible for any activity that occurs under your username.

You are responsible for keeping your password secure.

You must not abuse, harass, threaten, impersonate or intimidate other Pikapet users.

You may not use the Pikapet.com service for any illegal or unauthorized purpose. International users agree to comply with all local laws regarding online conduct and acceptable content.
You are solely responsible for your conduct and any data, text, information, screen names, graphics, photos, profiles, audio and video clips, links (“Content”) that you submit, post, and display on the Pikapet.com service.

You must not modify, adapt or hack Pikapet.com or modify another website so as to falsely imply that it is associated with Pikapet.com.

You must not transmit any worms or viruses or any code of a destructive nature.

You must not, in the use of Pikapet, violate any laws in your jurisdiction (including but not limited to copyright laws).


Nowhere does it say I cannot add the Wedding Profile page. I realize I am responsible for anything posted/ activity conducted under my account. I take full responsibility for all my pages and their activity. Yet, I do not believe Pikapet does. They are responsible for all activity on their site. Rarely have I seen Pikapet take care of problems, and stay in contact with members who are having problems/glitches with the site. They are keeping fakes which really do break Pikapet's copyright rules, yet they destroyed pages that were in the spirit of fun. Pikapet hasn't added anything new to the site in a long while either, may I say we have the right to entertain ourselves? Pikapet should be very pleased that they have so many loyal members who visit everyday. And instead, they are deleting their fun.


I for one love Pikapet and think it's a great idea, under poor management.

To other members who feel the same way as I do, please post your thoughts here. If we can get through to them, maybe they could restore our fun or make a negociation.

As to Pikapet I have one word: WHY?
29 Paws Up!
| Post a reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report



pippy loves the champ
i couldnt agree more with you bommer.... cause matter of fact when jayjay ~n~ ebony wedding was about over my elc cut out and when i came back no one was talking in the wedding forum then i went to maile contest  and all her contest pages was their but when i just look all beside two  was gone  that show proof that maile didnt delete them  that pikapet people did, and about your wedding page i thought it was a great idea i mean it be way easier on you  cause u mainly host all the weddings on pikapet......but pikapet need to delete the useless pages and not pages that  can bring everyone together and have fun on it  but that is my opinion sometimes it just dont count.LOL   
| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Bozo is back

Pikapet needs to be more active in the community: that's what it all really comes down to.

Perhaps if they did they would realize that most pets enjoyed such pages, and did not want them deleted. And if Pikapet doesn't care what it's members want,then what sort of site is this?

 

I understand that this is a pet site; therefore technically pages should only be for pets. But surely these page are just harmless fun compared to "fakes": which ARE, unlike contests, wedding pages and whatever else,against the rules and illegal. C'mon, Pink P, get your priorities straight- get rid of those fakes, put it in the rules if you really want the other pages gone, THEN delete them.

 

Also, to people who still have such pages, I suggest you save the information on the page, such as the About Me HTML in a Word Document, to be on the safe side.

 

The one sentence that truly sums how I feel about Pikapet is this:

"I for one love Pikapet and think it's a great idea, under poor management."

 

Great words, Boomer, so true. With such a diverse community, things aren't going to always be peaceful, and we need moderation! Pikapet, please moderate the forums better,or perhaps choose people to do so! Many people on this site would make great admins/mods.

 

Other pet sites are often accused of being too strict- the opposite is true of Pikapet. Can't we find a happy medium?

 

 

| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
JessieBC
I agree with you completely, Boomer, I reported a fake with proof that the image was stolen from Wikipedia a few weeks ago, and when I checked back the dog's still there. =/ I really think Pikapet should start deleting the fake pages; it's just not fair when they steal other people's pets' photos. As for the weddings and fun, I don't have a problem with them, and I think you should be allowed to keep them. =/ And Boston, I couldn't have put it better.
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Angel Marie Cullen
ok so yeah thats not right. They should be removing the fakes and the stuffed animals. The prom pages,contests etc are our fun. why remove them? From my basic knowlage I cant think of anything that would be the reason why to this. Why REMOVE them???? Thanks for informing me boomer I appreciate it ;)
| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
ContestCorner
Well you will notice after I spent almost 8 hours re making my pages yesterday (while everyone was having fun at a wedding) you will notice that ALL my contest pages are gone except for the birthday page. So they can take that too. But I am not going to sit here and debate what the rules are because long before a wedding page was thought of I read the rules before I set up my contests. That is why I did what I did. So if pikapet thinks getting rid of my pages was a good thing I hope they realize they have also gotten rid of me too!! I'd have to be a fool with nothing to do to set up pages again!!!! For those of you who remain here I cannot understand why when pikapet is opposed to things that bring a community together - but to you all I can say is Have Fun!
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SEXY Boomer loves Hope

Exactly. 3 hours of work put into a page just to have it deleted isn't my idea of "Pet Fun".

As for myself leaving, I most likely wont. (Not without an answer; Or forcing all 40 of the pets in my sunflower photo, and more to relocate with me!)

flowers.jpg picture by Boomer_Productions

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Jasmine Luvs Chico Boy

You know you can ALWAYS find me on Petsplaces Boomer !! { I'm still on Petster as well !! }

I was PISSED by the time I reached the end of reading your post !!!!

Posted on 21 Jul, 2008 | Report
 
Sadie

I agree with all of the posters above and like Boston said, Pikapet needs to be more active and aware of what is happening in this community. People obviously enjoyed wedding, party, and contests pages, but since the creator of this site isn't on to monitor and find out what people do enjoy, they decide to take actions themselves and take the fun away. Before you take wedding, party, contests, etc pages away, you need to get rid of the fakes. I see a countless number of fakes on this site and seriously, I'm ready to blow! Adding fun pages like Maile, Boomer and other users did is NOT in the guidelines and there is no rule against it. Now for fakes, that is illegal and I don't see you taking responsibility in deleting those pets that don't deserve to be on Pikapet.

 

The forums are CRAZY most of the time.  I know people will have their opinions and we may not all agree with a person, but with a simple statement or opinion, it gets way out of proportion. As I have private messaged you twice, I believe, about suggesting site moderators to look after the forums and shut threads down that are getting out of hand. That could be your job, actually, but you rarley come into the forums. There are many people that would be suitable for the moderator job. You just need to come here and pay attention and actually think about making that decision.

 

I would like a site that isn't too strict with rules but has enough to maintain balace in the community. Right now, I would just say Pikapet is chaos.

| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Bozo is back

Sadie,

You just summed the whole site up in one post. Agreed 100%

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DC Praying For Sams Poppa
I agree. I think if Pikapet is going to delete the fun pages, they should delete the fakes/inappropriate users/Stuffed animals. If you are going to do this, you should go all the way. Today the got up a contest... It took how long? Pikapet used to be more active in the community, around September of last year, they stopped! I know that Pikapet team can't get on every day, but maybe twice a week? I love Pikapet, A lot, and I can see others, like Boomer, do to. My pals and I have put in a lot for Pikapet, and we don't want it taken away. If Pikapet doesn't like this, than they should put it in terms and Service. One request from my family to Pikapet is to get more involved in the community. But, like mommy thinks, there has to be an explanation from Pikapet.
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ContestCorner

You know I will say one more thing to pikapet directly. I saved you the problem of having to delete my birthday page that I just remade last night - since there were only 6 pet in it.

 

But if you had given us (the community) the groups we asked for over and over we would not be doing our community work like this.

 

Almost all other sites have groups.

 

I also wonder Pikapet if you have any awareness of how what you have done has affected your community in a negative manner.

 

We have pets blaming pets for the disappearance of my contest pages, insinuations that I might have deleted my own pages etc etc etc.

 

You should have at least sent a message or done a forum letting us know what happened to the pages that we spent endless hour making and that are not anywhere against the TOS. It sure could have avoided a lot of accusations and ill feelings and drama among your community.
 

For anyone who is interested I will be setting up my Contest Corner in a group on petsplaces - Just give me some time and more energy to get it going.

| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
SEXY Boomer loves Hope

I strongly agree Maile Nei. Groups were requested nearly a year ago...

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Tuffy Luvs Sasha
Thank You, I just Emailed asking You That Very Q? !
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Sadie

Yes, I am very curious as to why Pikapet doesn't have any groups if a number of people have requested it? I know it may take some time, but if it was awhile ago that basically the whole community requested it - it should've been done by now.

 

 

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DC Praying For Sams Poppa
I agree Sadie, but then again, a few members and I have tried to get moderators, but i haven't seen that yet, either. I guess, my family is going to get on petsplaces more often since the contest will be populated!
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Sadie

Yes, I have requested that two times and I think others have requested it too. The majority of the active pets would like alot more done to this site and unfortunatly we aren't getting anything right now....

 

There has to be an explanation from Pikapet as to why we aren't receiving some of the things we have requested for the site.

Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
DC Praying For Sams Poppa
Possibly laziness? There is simply no excuse. Every pet site I have been on and I've asked for something(Usually the community wants it too), the owner put it up. If they can do it, so can Pikapet.
Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Chatter luvs Daisy
I also agree, there was no harm in the contest pages or the wedding page. There needs to be more deleting of the multiple fake pages than pages designed for the fun of the comunity.
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Tuffy Luvs Sasha
I also think Pages of Pet That, Have Not came on In so Long and obviously abandoned Should Be Deleted!
| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Pepper

AMEN BOOMER!!

 

My opinion about fake pets is this- Letters should not be added, nor any objects. Only real pets should be allowed. A pet should NOT be removed until there is definite, 100% proof the pet is fake. Pets should only be removed if the picture is of another user's pet, or the picture is of another website. If there is no definite proof, the user should be allowed to stay. If another user just thinks the user is fake because they only have one or two pictures, that is still not definite proof the pet is fake. The user may not have had a chance to upload more pictures yet. Or, if on the profile the age is 1 year old, and the picture is of a young puppy, kitten, baby animal, and so on, that does not mean they are fake. It may mean the user had to give the pet up when t was a puppy, and only has the puppy pictures. They would have the real age up, even if there are no adult pictures. Users should be innocent until proven guilty... real until proven fake.

 

My opinion on removal of the contest, wedding, and all those pages is this- They should not be removed. They should be ale to stay. The pages are all for fun. Nothing bad is happening on those pages. They are simply to host a place for us users to have fun. Malie Nei has put so much work into the contest pages, only to have them removed? She has made them safe and drama free. Everyone is nice to each other on there, only to have the pages removed by pikapet? That, in my opinion, is not good. And boomer is only trying to make weddings easier, make them run smooth. The page did no harm. He even said if anyone had a problem with the page to let him know, and it seemed nobody had a problem with the page, therefore it should be allowed to stay.

 

I think Pikapet has made a poor decision in removing these pages, and I hope they allow them o come back.

| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Angel Marie Cullen

I just have noticed that every pet site DOES have groups. why not pikapet?? no harm done and maile nei and boomer all of you im sorry myself that hours of hard work gone. i wish we all knew the real reason. :)

 

| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Sadie

BOL @ Cocoa! Well there is certainly no room for lazyness here. The community can't do anything without the creators acceptance and willingness to do it. When you are a creator of a site, you need to be able to fufill the communities needs.....There is waaay more pets joining then there was when I joined and that means the demand will grow bigger and bigger.

| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Tinkerbelle N StudMuffin
I am very disappointed in how fast they took Boomers Wedding Planner, and Maile's Contest pages that she put back on. But I remember over a Holiday weekend that we had a Graphic picture of someone having sex, and it took them forever to have that removed. We had accounts with disgusting language, threats of killing someone. And these pages stay on for days before pikapet does something about it. But fun pages are taken off this quickly. I believe Pikapet needs to get their priorities straight.
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DC Praying For Sams Poppa
Exactly Tink!
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Chatter luvs Daisy
Exactly!!!!   I agree Cousin Tinkerbelle, because what you just said was 100% right!!!!   And if anyone knows how me and Tinkerbelle gets along, that was hard for me to say!! lol
| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Jack

Pikapet, I think there is a serious lack of communication between us members and yourself. Please respond to this forum, say anything to let us know you're still there and you still care!!!! This lack of communication is causing great confusion within the community, you could atleast let us know if you're taking our ideas into consideration instead of ignoring us all. Be more invloved within the community, we'd love to hear from you! :)

 

I agree with you Boomer 100%, these contest, party etc pages are not against pikapets terms but the fake profiles are! "You must not, in the use of Pikapet, violate any laws in your jurisdiction (including but not limited to copyright laws)."

 

It does not make sense to delete these positive contributions to pikapet and keep the fake profiles.

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DC Praying For Sams Poppa
Indeed Jack! I would love to hear from Pikapet on what they think about this. Everything was pretty fine here as far as drama, really didn't see it much, but now it seems like PIKAPET just started some drama by doing this. They need to clean up the old garbage.
| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Angel Marie Cullen
i agree with you both, under copyright laws no one should even think of taking some ones picture without asking(for fakes) but still theres nothing wrong with the fun pages., why would pikapet do this? i agree with ALL of you 100%
| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Candi
Boomer, You couldn't have said it any better. Maile Nei and you spent alot of time making those page(s) and then Pikapet goes ahead and deletes them. Pikapet, Maile Nei and Boomer and the RESPONSIBLE and MATURE users should be allowed to make those pages for their reasons that they have. All of the not responsible and unmature users SHOULD (not all, only the users who have them for no purpose like stuffed animals and so on) have their pages deleted because they have them on for no reason or purpose. I can't believe this and i know how you feel and how upset you are.
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Kiefer Chiefs

I don't agree with the whole contest page thing....the site was never really meant for people to make pages for silly things like weddings and such.  That is something that has aggrevated me since my days on Dogster.

 

Though I do think Pikapet should look for the fakes instead.

| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
SEXY Jibbs missing Goblin
Kifa, I do get what you are saying. I think if Pikapet had contest dat were continuous den dere would have been no need for contest pages. As for da party pages, I didn't get dem. It was basically a forum dat you could add pics to, it was simply only pets talking... Hmm... dat sounds like a chat room, I think a forum is similar to one.
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TARA luvs Kooter

I am sorry to hear your wedding page has gone Boomer and I am also sorry for you Maile for spending all those hours making the contest pages for nothing now!!!

Tinkerbelle is spot on when she mentioned the PORN incident and how slow pikapet were to respond to it and yet Boomers page is gone in a flash ( I didn't get to even look at it!) , I hope pikapet E mails you directly ( everypet who has made a fun page) with an explanation as to why, because like you state it isn't against the rules!! 

I also have to agree with Boomers point about staying here because of friends, I couldn't leave here because I would miss my friends very very much!!

 I do Love pikapet but also feel that they should make their presence more prominent and frequent in the community!

| Reply | Posted on 29 Jun, 2008 | Report
 
Jasmine Luvs Chico Boy
I remember the Porn thingy too !!! It took FOREVER for PKP to remove it !!!
| Reply | Posted on 21 Jul, 2008 | Report
 
Sadie
Boy am I glad I didn't see that incident. Just to know that was on the site I am apart of, I am appalled. How could you leave that up for days before you took it off? The use of vulgular language on profiles needs to be corrected too. Some icons that are on pets pages has nothing to do with the pet itself and it isn't appropriate for anyone to see, let alone a child who came on here for fun.
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Abby
I know this was a long time ago, but omg I remember that. It was discusting and Pikapet didn't do anything for like 3 or 4 days!
| Reply | Posted on 14 Aug, 2008 | Report
 
StudMuffin N Tinkerbelle

Unfortunately, I have very little time to spend on any site within the Online Community.  I can therefore understand how difficult it is for Pikapet Authorities to consistently manage such a large and growing group of pets as they have here.  But what they need to understand is (if we can get it through to them) what they have unwittingly created is somewhat of a phenomenon, at least it is to all that I have attempted to describe this place to.  A common interest (love of animals) has bonded a collage of very intelligent and wonderful people together and they have grown as a family (one of which I am simply blessed to be a member of) to care for each other and coexist in what is a community that exists only in the Heart and Mind.  And there is no place in "reality" more perfect than that.  Pikapet needs to comprehend that their creation is EVOLVING and in doing so it is a success to its creator in every way.... but with this progression there has to be watchful leadership and rules with the leniency to change.  As well as strong and swift actions to those things that need no banter or discussion in their apparent malice!  Any group can discuss a topic right into the dust - completely destroying all hope of a deserved punishment, or reward (that is why I stay out of almost all debates.)  There must be an over-all decision by someone (administrators) that must take the time to be observant and make clean judgements allowing what is obviously the makings of an ethereal civilization (i.e., Wedding Coordinators, Contest Corner, Travel Agents... etc.) to take place as it has since the Roman Era and before.  And take pleasure, also, in the great success of what was once just a "cute idea".  Think Pikapet, wouldn't it be fun to strive for the sound judgements of good King Solomon in your very own Kingdom!?  Hmmm???     Although, I would stick beside my friends even until chaos reigned....  

 

 

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Chatter luvs Daisy

so very true,  any civilization without discipline and guidance will not succeed for very long. It will need direction and goal. We have seen evidence of this very thing already. Pets changing rules, deciding on their own what should be allowed and what shouldn't be. The longer authority stays uninvolved the worse we will see. It will be like when rome burned more or less. But than again, depending on the strengh of the people it could also mean the birth of a new era! lol